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Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 00:50:00 - [1] A PR manager will not do. Even at the best of times we're unlikely to get a better answer than 'I'll ask around and get back to you in 3 weeks' from someone in your job, Pann. You're being the sacrificial lamb, which is sort of commendable, but not very useful.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 - [2] Originally by: Zverofaust Irony overload; spend 48 hours desperately trying to get an official CCP response, then order CCP to stop responding when they finally do. True. We weren't expecting them to send the comedy squad first.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 02:39:00 - [3] Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen Whether he made the decisions or merely supervised others who did, there is one captain of the ship. That man, is CEO Hellmar. Good lord, man, have you ever heard Hilmar try to talk about EVE? I'd be amazed if he even knows what side of a space boat is supposed to point forward. I'd rather hear from the managers of actual game design related branches than listen to Hilmar try and sound enthusiastic about the company he runs.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 03:14:00 - [4] Shockingly, this still isn't a sticky. It's keeping the top slot on its own of course, but still.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 04:47:00 - [5] Originally by: Don Pellegrino Edited by: Don Pellegrino on 24/06/2011 04:44:35 Let's not fool ourselves, the first thing Hilmar is going to say is that there won't be non-vanity MTs. At most he's going to say there are no plans on the table at this time. A flat 'no' is not likely to come out of a CEO's mouth. ) because he hid them under the table.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 05:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Benilopax We are at a crossroads, CCP has reached out to us finally, let us talk frankly, honestly and politely to one another and see if we can find a way forward together. You're a well-respected player and podcaster, but please show me this 'reaching out' you speak of. All I see is failed damage control spin.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 05:37:00 - [7] Originally by: Max Gades When was the last dev post? Last we heard, I think CCP Manifest was somewhere around page 15, moving at 5 post per hour.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 07:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Krelian Lann Edited by: Krelian Lann on 24/06/2011 07:41:48 I can't help but listen to this while reading this thread --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQVeaIHWWck I listen to this: Linkage
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 08:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal Dear CCP Pann Thanks for at least coming forwards. Someone from the company had to and, although we've never met in any form, I'm pleased that contact is made. Before you thank her too much, remember that it's her damn job, which she's been neglecting for two days.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 08:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Ranka Mei And the character creator? It far overshadows anything anyone else has. Ever played Mass Effect? Their characters can't hold a candle to the truly ingenious 3D characters of Incarna! The 'animatronics' are amazing too. I was standing in my CQ the other day, and lingered a bit, and suddenly noticed my character was staring at her nails for boredom! Seriously, Incarna is the pinnacle of character design. The character creator is incredible. Unfortunately it runs at about 5fps on my elderly graphics card, but incredible none the less. However, the ingame avatar animations are not very good. Stiff and unnatural. Furthermore, I can't think of a recent 3d 3rd-person game without idle animations. My guy stands there scratching his head. Again and again, in the same weird animation. I'm thinking he needs some sort of medical shampoo rather than an award for visual excellence.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 09:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Amber Villaneous I would like a formal apology from every asshat in these forums that flamed me over the last few years when I told you this was coming. Hello, I'm from the PR department of flaming asshats. We want you to know that we're very sorry, and we should have been sorry earlier. Please keep in mind that I'm just a spokes-asshat, and can only serve as a mouthpiece. I'll try to get some answers for you tomorrow or something.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 09:14:00 - [12] Edited by: Kez Aumer on 24/06/2011 09:15:59 Originally by: Amber Villaneous Originally by: Kez Aumer Originally by: Amber Villaneous I would like a formal apology from every asshat in these forums that flamed me over the last few years when I told you this was coming. Hello, I'm from the PR department of flaming asshats. We want you to know that we're very sorry, and we should have been sorry earlier. Please keep in mind that I'm just a spokes-asshat, and can only serve as a mouthpiece. I'll try to get some answers for you tomorrow or something. Apology accepted, you have not lied to me before so I have no reason to believe you are feeding me bv11$h1t now. I'm glad. Now, I'm going to try to get some answers for you from my bosses - as I gather, your main complaint is that your face looks funny, and your second complaints is that you are a stinkypants. Is this correct?
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 09:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Gregarius Dear Pann, Thank you for coming out to front of the howling wolves It's her job. She should have been here as soon as the wolves even started getting restless. Instead she comes two days later, makes a hollow apology backed by 'I'm just a PR person, can't give answers or promises', two brief follow-up posts in the first half hour and then goes AWOL. The single 'good' thing we got out of her is confirmation that the pdf is genuine and evidence that CCP still has staff. By all means be as kind and courteous as your conscience bids you, but never forget that her function is to have a silver tongue and big, sad eyes.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 10:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Rex Liberium Originally by: Mark Hamill Originally by: CCP_Manifest's twitter @Thorvik_EVE Oh, I understand passion. THere's of course a lot of logic people are missing, but that's ok. THIS... is utterly hilarious. They break out the PR staff to abate the pitchforks and then one calls us stupid and ignorant behind our backs? AHHH ha ha ha ha. Kristoffer's ass is that way ----------------------------------------> Sorry if I'm late on this but I woke up to an 80+ page thread and I'm still catching up. I fail to see what logic we are missing? If you hop on eve-search and find CCP Manifest's latest posts, you'll see that he didn't have much of an answer to that, himself. He tried to answer it somewhere around page 20-30 I think.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 10:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Ein Spiegel I hope that this turns out better for you, and that CCP as a company treats you better than SOE treated Tiggs. Tiggs consistently gave the impression of siding with the community. She didn't dump 3 posts and leave for coffee while a 90 page thread exploded over the next 10 hours.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 10:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Adunh Slavy (Kennedysploitation) Good lord, that was an awesome picture <3
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 10:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Kamikaze Jihawty CCP Pann fo shizzle is not a hero. Just doing the job of a PR is all. Quite. Comparing her situation to Tiggs on the SoE boards is absurd. One spoke for as well at to the players, the other is 'just a mouthpiece'. Also, 90 fucking pages?
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 11:06:00 - [18] Originally by: Kamikaze Jihawty I never compared Pann with Tiggs. I compared this game with SWG. Both games now have histories of not listening to the player base to a point of implosion. I know, I was agreeing with you. The poster you quoted did :)
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 11:13:00 - [19] Originally by: Sha Dar At no offence intended, no customer relations type person is EVER going to cut it, nor is "We didn't hold your hand enough, explain enough, guide enough" etc... It's ok, at this stage you're allowed to intend offence.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 12:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Adunh Slavy Originally by: Istyn ... death threats ... Are people really doing that? That's a bit far to go. We can hate his "public face", but the person behind that is off limits IMO. Very. Some people seem to have problems seeing the difference between 'not going to play your shit' and 'I want to punch you with a knife!!!' CCP Soundwave blows. On the other hand I think I'd still buy Kristoffer a beer if I ever met him. Then we can share anecdotes about that time he destroyed eve fan trust .
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.24 12:37:00 - [21] Originally by: xynix http://twitter.com/#!/CCP_Tardsauce apparently the Devs have time to post on Twitter Seems like it. Be more worried about the managers also having time to fuck about on twitter - At this stage the Devs can have fun for all I care.
Kez Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.25 05:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Oregin $1000 jeans - get laid. A great mystery - $1000 jeans do not get you laid, but at the same time they do get you fucked in the ass.

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